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nosehair 03-14-2007 07:43 PM

What's the biggest rivalry in the Premier League?
 
Is it Man U and Chelsea? Could it be Man U and Man City? Liverpool vs. Man U?

Or would it not even involve Man U.....could it be Watford and Bolton?dancing

Does it change with each season?.....what is the biggest rivalry in the Premier League?

torrenova 03-14-2007 08:00 PM

Newcastle v Sunderland (when Sunderland are not busy getting relegated).
Newcastle v Boro

Obvious candidates are Arsenal v Tottenham, Man U v Man C, Liverpool v Everton

I think there would have been more but some teams are relegated and thus, rivalries diminish for some pairs.

ROLAND 03-14-2007 08:01 PM

I'd still say Man Utd v Liverpool or maybe Arsenal v Man Utd , not Chelsea v anyone as once Roman has weighed in his missus's divorce settlement he will be skint .

butterflyblonde 03-14-2007 08:35 PM

Man U - Liverpool.
Arsenal - Tottenham.
Man U - Man City
Portsmouth - Southampton
Man U - Arsenal
Villa - Birmingham (when the Blues were premier league)
Man U - Chelsea
Chelsea - Fulham
Newcastle - Sunderland (again when the black cats were Premier)
Man U - Newcastle
Liverpool - Everton (but they seem to get on)
Man U - Leeds (even though Leeds ain't Premier, nobody hates Man U quite like a Leeds fan hates Man U)

penetrator 03-14-2007 09:11 PM

Back when Chelsea was still just a medium sized club the West Ham - Chelsea rivalry was pretty big, would usually be plenty of violence among the fans.

West Ham - Millwall is always another good'n for thuggery but of course Millwall are not a premiership team and neither will West Ham be next season - the way things are going West ham may well be meeting Millwall in the old 3rd division after next season :Copy of angry:

jonny 03-14-2007 09:31 PM

man U Man C is a pretty big one. You are pretty much guaranteed a mass brawl somewhere in town

ferocious 03-14-2007 09:42 PM

liverpool v manu is the game with the most hatred i've witnessed .! everton & liverpool do get on so-so but i've seen it kick off a few times & i got hit with a pie once thrown from the everton end:bigfinger , the only other game i've been to that matches liverpool v manu is leeds v manu , battling everywhere & very entertaining for a nuetral fan

Thebomb 03-14-2007 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ferocious (Post 19303)
liverpool v manu is the game with the most hatred i've witnessed .! everton & liverpool do get on so-so but i've seen it kick off a few times & i got hit with a pie once thrown from the everton end:bigfinger , the only other game i've been to that matches liverpool v manu is leeds v manu , battling everywhere & very entertaining for a nuetral fan

fuckin hell!! throwin pies!!! fuckin physcos!!

ferocious 03-14-2007 09:51 PM

what a mess it made

Thebomb 03-14-2007 09:53 PM

wasnt one of those heat seeking meat and potatoes was it??? surface to air cornish pasty???

ferocious 03-14-2007 09:56 PM

steak i think... paul & shark jumper splattered in gravy , dinnertime kick-off so i was stuck in the cunt .. rather been chinned

penetrator 03-14-2007 10:00 PM

For the Septics and Aussies on here the biggest rivalry in British football is not actually in England but up in Scotland. When Rangers and Celtic play each other the hospitals in the south west of Scotland get filled with fans of either side who've been attacked by the opposition.

It's mostly down to religion and Irish/Ulster loyalties, the Rangers fans are mostly Protestant and believe in Ulster being part of the UK and the Celtic fans mostly Catholic and supporting a united Ireland.

Thebomb 03-14-2007 10:00 PM

bastard.....hate it when that happens.....got a jam doughnut thrown at me when i was at college...had a white jumper on,with a big red splodge on ma back for the day...tosser

jonny 03-14-2007 10:05 PM

ferocious what a fucking waste! I hope you wiped it off your face and ate what you could save?

ferocious 03-14-2007 10:11 PM

fuck that jonny , the blue nosed cunt had probably wiped his knob on it

jonny 03-14-2007 10:14 PM

and???

BorisBroomhead 03-15-2007 06:48 AM

Had a mate who went to many Arsenal games. He reckons the fans were more interested in whether Tottenham were losing than watching their own game

Fork Handles 03-15-2007 07:04 AM

I remember a Liverpool fan claiming that theirs was the only derby where rival fans could walk to the game together, coz everybody on Merseyside hates the rest of the world more than they hate each other.:gunsmilie:

ferocious 03-15-2007 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Fork Handles (Post 19365)
I remember a Liverpool fan claiming that theirs was the only derby where rival fans could walk to the game together, coz everybody on Merseyside hates the rest of the world more than they hate each other.:gunsmilie:


i've seen everton join with liverpool when manu are in town , also heard lots of stories of them joining up to fight other teams

woodman2 03-15-2007 08:25 PM

I once copped a smack on the back of the head at a Man U v Leeds FA Cup semi final at Hillsborough. Knocked me down a couple of steps.

I gingerly put my hand up to feel what it was. Got a hand full of warm liquid and some mushy pulp. "Fucking Hell me brains" I thought.
Same as Reg on closer inspection it turned out to be a pork pie.

It must of been a stale one cos it didnt half ring my bell.

Garp 03-15-2007 08:32 PM

Liverpool/Man U without a doubt you can taste the hatred, and that's just the players.

ROLAND 03-15-2007 08:33 PM

The only time I ever hit someone was at Wembley when I twatted a Man U idiot during the cup final.
All the other times I ran to preserve my good looks :whistling:

nosehair 03-15-2007 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woodman2 (Post 19447)
I once copped a smack on the back of the head at a Man U v Leeds FA Cup semi final at Hillsborough. Knocked me down a couple of steps.

I gingerly put my hand up to feel what it was. Got a hand full of warm liquid and some mushy pulp. "Fucking Hell me brains" I thought.
Same as Reg on closer inspection it turned out to be a pork pie.

It must of been a stale one cos it didnt half ring my bell.

Were they aiming for you woody....or was it a lucky toss?dancing

BorisBroomhead 03-15-2007 10:14 PM

In the 80’s you would read about a fan caught with a sock full of snooker balls. Now that guy was looking for trouble.

Fork Handles 03-16-2007 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woodman2 (Post 19447)
I Same as Reg on closer inspection it turned out to be a pork pie.

It must of been a stale one cos it didnt half ring my bell.

And inspired Benny Hill's epic saga.....


"A stale pork pie
Caught him in the eye
And Woody bit the dust."
:dj:

nosehair 03-23-2007 03:00 PM

How many teams in the Premier League will be demoted before next season and what will happen to the best players on those squads?

Do most players have clauses in there contracts that if the club drops from Premier level they can opt out of there contract?

What clubs from the lower division are most likely to be promoted?

Any top flight Premier players about to become "free agents" and able to negotiate a contract with another club for next season...such as Ronaldo...how many years is he tied to ManU...same same Rooney.... and Lampard with Chelsea?

ferocious 03-23-2007 04:15 PM

usually the top players have a clause in their contracts if they get relegated they can move on , 3 teams will be relegated nose & i think derby county , sunderland & birmingham city will be the 3 to come up JMO... Players in the premiership generally sign a 4 year contract bu that can be extended at any time if both parties are happy as ronaldo is negotiating at the moment , very rare big clubs will let their players get within 2 years of their contract expiring.. if you get to six months remaining on your contract you are free to discuss with other clubs

BigBadSi 03-24-2007 07:54 PM

from my experience

Leeds/sheffield utd
Leeds/scumchester bastards
leeds/chelsea cockney ponces

Leeds were a highly respected(like the ICF of west ham) so ended up battling alot i think everyne goes to leeds expecting a scrap/.

My most recent a few year ago Leeds v wigan where most my mates got 3 year banning orders one of the lads i was with was sayi ng that was the best scrap in 5 year ,,,,must have been old skool

Thebomb 03-24-2007 09:23 PM

aye there tough lads from wigan,harder than your average leeds fairy

ferocious 03-25-2007 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBadSi (Post 20706)
from my experience

Leeds/sheffield utd
Leeds/scumchester bastards
leeds/chelsea cockney ponces

Leeds were a highly respected(like the ICF of west ham) so ended up battling alot i think everyne goes to leeds expecting a scrap/.

My most recent a few year ago Leeds v wigan where most my mates got 3 year banning orders one of the lads i was with was sayi ng that was the best scrap in 5 year ,,,,must have been old skool


funny enough i was there si , i know a couple of leeds fans & i went as they had a spare ticket..! it was like the 80's , massive kick off outside the wigan end & in the coachpark over the road police horses the lot , i stood by the bremner statue watching from a safe distance:viannen_10:

nosehair 05-08-2007 11:46 AM

The ManU/Chelsea contest tomorrow night, that looked so important a couple of weeks ago, isn't getting much notice anymore.....or am I wrong.

Will this be one of Ronaldo's last games for ManU?....will he be playing for Real Madrid next season?

Who are the likely teams to be added to next years Premier League season?...who will be demoted?...any other stars expected to be in different uniforms next season?

ferocious 05-08-2007 12:01 PM

the chelsea/man u game is now being billed as the champions league 3rd/4th play off nose lol... i think ronaldo will still be there next season !
birmingham city & sunderland have been promoted to the pemiership with one more to follow after the play offs , charlton & watford have been relegated to the championship with one of either west ham , wigan or sheffield united to join them

nosehair 05-08-2007 06:47 PM

Thanks reg....a couple of questions....lets say that Sheffield United is dropped from Premier League status....what happens to there top players like Hulse....would a player have an out in his contract if his team fell out of the Premier League?.....

Do teams in lesser levels still get shown on TV, share in TV revenue etc. Do players not in the P/L still get endorsement contracts? Who are some of the top players on Birmingham and Sunderland?

Were there any players on the World Cup team that were not in the Premier League?

Bilbobaggins 05-08-2007 07:02 PM

Can't believe I missed this thread :disgust:

Never mind.
For me its obviously City-red twats BUT I have seen more than a few hairy moments in my times following football.....
City-united every time just about

City Leeds a few times
City Tottenham (must be down to that argie cunt in 81)
City Wigan, mass brawl in the car park at their old gorund Springfield Park 99 play-off semi
City stockport (believe it or not they have a decent small mob)
City Villa fuck knows why
City Millwall a few times, best when in about 92? City done them at London Bridge station
City Birmingham........the list could go on but I won't bore you with just City matches, others I have been to.....
Southampton Portsmouth, up in London, FA Cup day, saints were at spurs, pompey at Palace, kicked off at Covent Garden, tear gas the lot, good ruck
Burnley at a few places, they are not called the suicide squad for nothing!
Millwall Derby in the playoffs a few years back was manic

Loads more..........

Baggins...:boxing:

Fork Handles 05-08-2007 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nosehair (Post 26744)
Thanks reg....a couple of questions....lets say that Sheffield United is dropped from Premier League status....what happens to there top players like Hulse....would a player have an out in his contract if his team fell out of the Premier League?.....

Do teams in lesser levels still get shown on TV, share in TV revenue etc. Do players not in the P/L still get endorsement contracts? Who are some of the top players on Birmingham and Sunderland?

Were there any players on the World Cup team that were not in the Premier League?


Just reading about Sunderland yesterday. Who would have have thought Roy Keane had the right stuff to manage a successful team?
What next, Ireland?

ferocious 05-08-2007 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fork Handles (Post 26816)
Just reading about Sunderland yesterday. Who would have have thought Roy Keane had the right stuff to manage a successful team?
What next, Ireland?


what about him being at man u next ash ?? 3 or 4 years time

BigBadSi 05-08-2007 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nosehair (Post 26744)
Thanks reg....a couple of questions....lets say that Sheffield United is dropped from Premier League status....what happens to there top players like Hulse....would a player have an out in his contract if his team fell out of the Premier League?.....

Do teams in lesser levels still get shown on TV, share in TV revenue etc. Do players not in the P/L still get endorsement contracts? Who are some of the top players on Birmingham and Sunderland?

Were there any players on the World Cup team that were not in the Premier League?

Some players have outs on their contracts nose that had been agreed before signing doubt hulse will though

Fork Handles 05-09-2007 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ferocious (Post 26817)
what about him being at man u next ash ?? 3 or 4 years time

Looks like Fergy wants to keep going......probably fancies 10 premierships.

Be interesting to see who finally gets the nod, Keano might be in if he controls his emotions.

Wouldn't be surprised if they chased Mourinho, but the Dutch style seems more like MU.

old crust 05-09-2007 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilbobaggins (Post 26747)
Can't believe I missed this thread :disgust:

Never mind.
For me its obviously City-red twats BUT I have seen more than a few hairy moments in my times following football.....
City-united every time just about

City Leeds a few times
City Tottenham (must be down to that argie cunt in 81)
City Wigan, mass brawl in the car park at their old gorund Springfield Park 99 play-off semi
City stockport (believe it or not they have a decent small mob)
City Villa fuck knows why
City Millwall a few times, best when in about 92? City done them at London Bridge station
City Birmingham........the list could go on but I won't bore you with just City matches, others I have been to.....
Southampton Portsmouth, up in London, FA Cup day, saints were at spurs, pompey at Palace, kicked off at Covent Garden, tear gas the lot, good ruck
Burnley at a few places, they are not called the suicide squad for nothing!
Millwall Derby in the playoffs a few years back was manic

Loads more..........

Baggins...:boxing:

You an Old Guv'nor Bilbo?

old crust 05-09-2007 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nosehair (Post 26744)
Thanks reg....a couple of questions....lets say that Sheffield United is dropped from Premier League status....what happens to there top players like Hulse....would a player have an out in his contract if his team fell out of the Premier League?.....

Do teams in lesser levels still get shown on TV, share in TV revenue etc. Do players not in the P/L still get endorsement contracts? Who are some of the top players on Birmingham and Sunderland?

Were there any players on the World Cup team that were not in the Premier League?

I doubt if Hulse would get a club in the Premier if the Blades go down.

Most players will have some sort of endorsement contract.

On Monday the Conference North Divisional play off final (five leagues lower than the Premier) is live on television. Although not as much as Premier clubs get, the lower leagues do get TV payouts. If they are the home team, they get around £100,000.

Players from the lower leagues do sometimes turn out for England. The last being Nugent from Preston in Englands last game.

I think Sunderland will recruit big time for the new season. Their best player (Kavanagh) has been injured and like a few others in the team may be shown the door. Birmingham will recruit a few players. They are a physical team, which worked for them this season, but does'nt count for much in the Premier and will be relegated again. West Brom are the best team in the play offs, but have a few key players out, injured and suspended, including Kamara, who was the best player I saw in the Championship this season. Whatever happens the play off winners will go down again next season, sad but true.


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