[penetrator]

Originally Posted by elway69

15-15
England must be proper shite.

They are but credit has to go to good coaching by the Sweaty manager, what part of Scotchland is he from again ?

[elway69]

Originally Posted by penetrator

They are but credit has to go to good coaching by the Sweaty manager, what part of Scotchland is he from again ?

I don't even know the cunt.

[simie]

Andy Robinson he's English, used to be England manager at one time and previously played for Bath.
Simie.

[woodman2]

Originally Posted by old crust

Rugby Union has died a death. It only survives due to the fact that most of the people who watch it have not got a clue what's going on They just turn up to be part of some sort of in crowd.

The game needs some radical changes at professional level. Starters would be reduce the team to 12 or 13 and make the defending side start 15 yards from the game line.

Better still, revert back to amateur status, have fat unfit props and let the players concentrate on ale drinking instead of training.

Then it would be Rugby League. A far superior game to Union in terms of fitness of the players and entertainment for the spectators.

I once saw a stat somewhere about the amount of time the ball was actually in play in both games. I forget the figures but League was ahead by miles.

I played Union at school and League as a semi-pro for Bramley and Dewsbury. League players are fitter than even their top class Union counterparts.

[old crust]

Spot on Woodman. League is far superior to Union.
A lot of Union watchers would need to keep drawn out scrums, rucks and mauls though, as it gives them plenty of time to have a nip of brandy from their flasks while not missing any 'entertainment'.

[simie]

I can understand why many people love league but its just not for me I'm afraid, we have to agree to differ?! England at the moment need a change of attitude and big kick up the arse. Nice to see the French keeping the ball in hand a bit and actually going over the try line! Would be nice if England started doing the same.
Simie.

[old crust]

Originally Posted by simie

Why he has stuck to some of the underperforming players he has is beyond me, loyalty? One change he did make yesterday was to bring Joe Worsley back in, who I thought was our best player. But he really must wield the axe big time before the France game IMHO?
Simie.

I agree we need to change the team, but who will come in and make a real difference? I think the changes need to be deeper and maybe remove the Leicester influence from the rest of the coaching team. Leicester have always had a crude approach to the game, based more on brutal beasting sessions than skills.