[roamer]

heard it mentioned ,what is it?
Saw one poster on a board state that he only uses a proxy server while posting on that board.
It`s different from an ISP??
Does it cost money to use?
Some sites that are blocked in say LOS seen people say they use a proxy server for access.
Confused,help appreciated.

[jonny]

ok it works like this


when you connect to the internet your computer connects with your internet provider and then you browse sites.

When you visit sites you send your ip information in the http headers you send to and from the website you are browsing.

With a proxy it is simply another server that is open and you can use. You can connect to it and then browse the internet. When you visit websites instead of the website getting your ip when you visit it gets the proxxies ip address instead. This means the website doesn't know it is you connecting to it. This is why people use proxies sometimes when they connect to forums. If their ip address has been banned, using a proxy means they will be logged under the proxies ip address and can usually re register quite easily.

You can also browse sites that have been blocked by your isp as to them you are just connecting to the proxy, they do not see where you are connecting to beyond the proxy. In general though they are abused by spammers and hackers.

Not sure if I have made myself clear as I have just babbled on without really thinking if I have explained it properly???

[roamer]

Cheers jonny that`s helped a bit but I`m still confused,can I say connect to the internet using my ISP,happens to be Tiscali then from that use a proxy server or would I connect direct to a proxy server?
I haven`t got any problems that mean I would need to use one just trying to understand how it works.
Is using a proxy server same as using an ISP,just that it is anonymous?

[jonny]

I've never had to use one roamer but i believe there are a couple of ways to connect to them. You can connect directly to some of them others you can go to their webpage and browse through their website, also there are programs that will change your internet settings and rotate from a database different using different proxies.

I've never had to use one, and I'm shit with stuff like that. websites and some web language ok, but stuff like that I've never got involved with proxies. Ask Winnie I think he's used them a few times before!

[ferocious]

i think i'll give that a miss

[soi 2]

I've heard of this website - http://anonymouse.org/
Which will, it claims mask your ISP address. I remember reading on one of these Pattaya boards about roving ISP's as well. So you get a slightly different ISP address everytime you log on. The things you learn reading Pattaya messageboards !

[jonny]

the boards are getting clever though and they can now read your real ip address even if you use a proxy address by analysing the httop headers.......

[soi 2]

Cheers for the info jonny. I'm not going to be starting any internet wars but I've got two questions - firstly as roamer mentioned. Some sites are banned in Thailand. Would using something as straightforward as anonymouse let you view them ?

Also, and bear in mind my understanding of the internet is pretty basic ! If a website can see my ISP address, what does that actually mean to me. That the sites owners would know roughly where I am on say a postcode basis. Or my actual address. Or would they need to contact a third party such as my internet provider to find this out ?

[jonny]

ok, yes using something like that would enable you to browse sites that have been banned and yes any site you visit can get your ip address and find out your location not quite by postcode but by your closest connection node which is probably bkk?

[soi 2]

Thanks jonny. Interesting to know.