[old crust]

Rugby Union has died a death. It only survives due to the fact that most of the people who watch it have not got a clue what's going on They just turn up to be part of some sort of in crowd.

The game needs some radical changes at professional level. Starters would be reduce the team to 12 or 13 and make the defending side start 15 yards from the game line.

Better still, revert back to amateur status, have fat unfit props and let the players concentrate on ale drinking instead of training.

[woodman2]

Originally Posted by old crust

Rugby Union has died a death. It only survives due to the fact that most of the people who watch it have not got a clue what's going on They just turn up to be part of some sort of in crowd.

The game needs some radical changes at professional level. Starters would be reduce the team to 12 or 13 and make the defending side start 15 yards from the game line.

Better still, revert back to amateur status, have fat unfit props and let the players concentrate on ale drinking instead of training.

Then it would be Rugby League. A far superior game to Union in terms of fitness of the players and entertainment for the spectators.

I once saw a stat somewhere about the amount of time the ball was actually in play in both games. I forget the figures but League was ahead by miles.

I played Union at school and League as a semi-pro for Bramley and Dewsbury. League players are fitter than even their top class Union counterparts.

[simie]

Well Foz was right England where shit, but not a great surprise the way they being managed. Johnson need to weild the axe before the France game. Better still after the 6 nations axe Johnson and get a coach like McGeechan in? But nothing wrong with rugby. I'd have to say with respect Old Crust talking bollocks, watched some great Super 14 rugby earlier today and must say far more entertaining than watching the current England set up!↲
Simie.

[old crust]

Originally Posted by simie

But nothing wrong with rugby. I'd have to say with respect Old Crust talking bollocks,
Simie.

We will have to agree to differ. I think there is plenty wrong, including the present laws, which incourage too much kicking, the wage cap in England, the level of impact injuries and lack of crowds to name but a few. It would also help if there was a common understanding of what the new laws are. Some of the Down Under Rugby can be entertaining, but some of their games are poor entertainment. When South Africa recently beat NZ all they did was kick, the Kiwi scrum half made more passes than all the Springbox put together.

[foz]

Well that was bull ...................Johnson should be The englsh tactics where awful.We where lucky park hit the woodwork twice.

[foz]

I hate the game in its a waste ov time very inconsitant referees,look at that idiot in charge today ,most other refs would ov had both front rows sin bind for not binding properly.Kicking the ball has killed the game ,its more like that stupied aussie rules game now.I hated it when england won RUGBY world cup,this because we learnt to cheat better than others.

[old crust]

Originally Posted by foz

I hate the game in its a waste ov time very inconsitant referees,look at that idiot in charge today ,most other refs would ov had both front rows sin bind for not binding properly.Kicking the ball has killed the game ,its more like that stupied aussie rules game now.I hated it when england won RUGBY world cup,this because we learnt to cheat better than others.

Good point foz about the cheating. My club Leicester Tigers have enjoyed huge success over the years by being the best cheats.

If you ever make it out to Aus', give Aussie Rules a chance. Great game in my opinion.

[elway69]

15-15
England must be proper shite.

[penetrator]

Originally Posted by elway69

15-15
England must be proper shite.

They are but credit has to go to good coaching by the Sweaty manager, what part of Scotchland is he from again ?

[elway69]

Originally Posted by penetrator

They are but credit has to go to good coaching by the Sweaty manager, what part of Scotchland is he from again ?

I don't even know the cunt.