[soi 2]

There are people on the board from all over the world and just wondered what you make of the rumblings from Alex Salmond and his Independence Campaign ?

Things seem to be getting a lot more aggressive now. With this share the £ or we walk away from our share of the national debt argument. Defaulting on our debt as a bargaining tool...

http://bettertogether.net/blog/entry...default-threat

Personally... this is the craziest thing I've ever lived through in Scotland. Things are building to a fever pitch with three weeks to go. I think there's going to be unrest if there is a NO vote. It reminds me in some ways of the run up to the 1999 Old Firm game when Rangers won the league at Parkhead. There was mayhem all over the West of Scotland in the aftermath of that. Now its separatists versus unionists and Scot against Scot. The damage to our society has been massive and will take years to heal.

I'll be voting NO

[ferocious]

I work with 3 Scottish blokes (all cektic nuts) and they are voting yes , stickers all over their cars .. They been quiet today after the football last night mind you

[Sancho]

Originally Posted by ferocious

I work with 3 Scottish blokes (all cektic nuts) and they are voting yes , stickers all over their cars .. They been quiet today after the football last night mind you

Thread fuck but. ..Talk about karma, justice has been done!!

[soi 2]

It's complicated but by coincidence.... nearly every (anti British) Celtic fan I know is a YES too.

Wealth or lack of it, the next big factor. If you have any assets, a house, savings, pension, etc. why risk it ? If you are unemployed with out a penny to your name then lets roll the dice and see what happens. Things can't get any worse for that person than they already are.

Wonder how they'll get on working in England (part of the EU) while Scotland has to apply to join ? Will they need visa's of some kind ? What about Scottish people working in other EU countries ? If they're so pro- YES maybe they'll come 'home' to work and pay tax in Bonnie Scotland, like the rest of us...

[old crust]

Originally Posted by soi 2

Wonder how they'll get on working in England (part of the EU) while Scotland has to apply to join ? Will they need visa's of some kind ? What about Scottish people working in other EU countries ? If they're so pro- YES maybe they'll come 'home' to work and pay tax in Bonnie Scotland, like the rest of us...

I cannot see anyway that the EU will let Scotland in and be seen to support breakaway countries. Catalonia and North Italy would use it as a president and follow suit, that would pull down most of the south european countries already failed economies.

[Sancho]

I think a Yes vote would be a backwards step for Scotland and voting for your countries future over football/tribalism is plain stupid....

[soi 2]

Originally Posted by Sancho

I think a Yes vote would be a backwards step for Scotland and voting for your countries future over football/tribalism is plain stupid....

It doesn't get more tribal than - we are Scottish lets fuck the English off. Freedom !!!

No one is voting based on football teams, even by Scottish standards that would be crazy. But football teams illustrate the sectarian divides in our society.

[gonzo]

For all Salmond's bullshit rhetoric, the whole 'give us sterling or else' line has to be the worst bluff in recent years. Followed to its logical conclusion it'd leave Scotland with no currency union and a credit rating worse than Greece as to cave to threats like that would be political suicide for any of the mainstream UK parties.

In fairness, in the event of a 'Yes' vote, fucking Independent Scotland off will be a big vote winner in England and Wales so any concessions on splitting former Union assets is going to be a hard sell.

I still can't understand how Salmond got elected up there anyway, I've yet to meet anyone who doesn't want to give the oily little shyster a slap.

[old crust]

Do the Yes crowd think the rest of the Union are going to put up with all this Scottish self interest? I am sure millions will be canceling all Scottish related policies around banking, insurance and energy. I have already sorted out alternatives to my Direct Line, BoS and Scottish Power arrangements.

I do think it will be interesting when the Shetland Islands decide they want self determination and all their geographical oil. Presumably Salmond and his pals won't be so keen on countries breaking up then.

A mate of mine in Edinburgh reckons the vote is fairly straight forward, the drinking class say Yes and the thinking class No.

For what it is worth, I think a No vote is a certainty, I cannot believe that 50.01% of Scots are retarded.

[soi 2]

The bookies seem to think it will be a NO, it's 1-5 on for a no vote and 11-2 for YES the last time I checked. I hope they are right because it will be havoc up here if it goes through. I don't think it will but it will be close. Now though, the momentum has started for this nonsense it's not going to go away quietly on the 19th...