Calcutta cup
 

What a shan both teams are.England full ov snobby over paid leeches,Scotland are just :shit: .......like at all sports.

My prediction our faggots ,will fall back to last years problems,too many penaltys,this leaving the brakehearts to take advantge.

Whats your predictions?

Foz, you could well be right? But I think England will just pull enough out of the bag to get a win. Trouble is Jonno was a great player but he just does'nt set the world on fire as a coach IMHO. Far to conservative, we need someone with a bit more flare and dynamism to stick a rocket up their arses?
Simie.

p.s. I would'nt actually say these guys are overpaid, the knocks they take every week and even a top guy in the Guinness premiership get in a year what that thick wanker John Terry gets in a couple of weeks.
Simie.

Rugby is a sport for poofs and toffs

I like the Scotland team mascot

Are you calling Simie an iron or a toff ????:grinpunch:

:scotty:

Don't worry Rolly must have been doing some DIY and been sniffing a pot of Milkpots Dulux?!
If the fumes have worn off he'll currently be at that mecca for association football...the Withdean!:bigfinger
Simie.

Our lesbians did well today, beat the Sweaty lesbo's 51-0

1st half was utter :shit:

Rugby Union has died a death. It only survives due to the fact that most of the people who watch it have not got a clue what's going on They just turn up to be part of some sort of in crowd.

The game needs some radical changes at professional level. Starters would be reduce the team to 12 or 13 and make the defending side start 15 yards from the game line.

Better still, revert back to amateur status, have fat unfit props and let the players concentrate on ale drinking instead of training.

Well Foz was right England where shit, but not a great surprise the way they being managed. Johnson need to weild the axe before the France game. Better still after the 6 nations axe Johnson and get a coach like McGeechan in? But nothing wrong with rugby. I'd have to say with respect Old Crust talking bollocks, watched some great Super 14 rugby earlier today and must say far more entertaining than watching the current England set up!↲
Simie.

Well that was bull :shit:...................Johnson should be :out:The englsh tactics where awful.We where lucky park hit the woodwork twice.

We will have to agree to differ. I think there is plenty wrong, including the present laws, which incourage too much kicking, the wage cap in England, the level of impact injuries and lack of crowds to name but a few. It would also help if there was a common understanding of what the new laws are. Some of the Down Under Rugby can be entertaining, but some of their games are poor entertainment. When South Africa recently beat NZ all they did was kick, the Kiwi scrum half made more passes than all the Springbox put together.

I hate the game in its a waste ov time very inconsitant referees,look at that idiot in charge today ,most other refs would ov had both front rows sin bind for not binding properly.Kicking the ball has killed the game ,its more like that stupied aussie rules game now.I hated it when england won RUGBY world cup,this because we learnt to cheat better than others.

15-15
England must be proper shite.

:scotty:

Good point foz about the cheating. My club Leicester Tigers have enjoyed huge success over the years by being the best cheats.

If you ever make it out to Aus', give Aussie Rules a chance. Great game in my opinion.

Have to say both Foz and Old Crust do raise some good points as I must admit Rugby Union is far from perfect. But I would'nt right it off just yet. Just as we can critise some things about rugby one could do the same thing about football which IMHO is far from perfect these days.
Just on a few off those points raised, yes there has been too much messing about with the laws and not to the games benefit, so that could do with attention. Yes impact injuries are a problem now, I used to pay No.8 in my youth but no way I'd be big enough these days. I agree the wage cap in the Guiness premiership is too low, but I think there should be one at some level to keep wages at a sensible level. Being a Wasps man it comes easy to slag off Leicester (sorry!) but perhaps one of the problems with Jonno is that he is Leicester through and through? And yes the ref was poor with his handling of the scrum yesterday, but just look at football they never stop moaning about the ref so its far from restricted to rugby.
Simie.

Feel free to slag them off, but remember Wasp's were a close second in the cheating stakes. Jonno is a good bloke off the field, but like most people from the Tigers they think their way is the only way. Some good foreign coaches have walked away from Welford Road because of interference from the Board who want to be involved in how things are organised on the pitch.

OC, yes as you say Wasps far from perfect either and it was really just a bit of banter on my part! As for yesterdays game it was pretty dire and I think your right about Leicesters rather "blinkered" perhaps approach to things? I would have to say that Jonno seems to have brought that approach to England and its just not working. Why he has stuck to some of the underperforming players he has is beyond me, loyalty? One change he did make yesterday was to bring Joe Worsley back in, who I thought was our best player. But he really must wield the axe big time before the France game IMHO?
Simie.

They are but credit has to go to good coaching by the Sweaty manager, what part of Scotchland is he from again ?

I don't even know the cunt.

Andy Robinson he's English, used to be England manager at one time and previously played for Bath.
Simie.

Then it would be Rugby League. A far superior game to Union in terms of fitness of the players and entertainment for the spectators.

I once saw a stat somewhere about the amount of time the ball was actually in play in both games. I forget the figures but League was ahead by miles.

I played Union at school and League as a semi-pro for Bramley and Dewsbury. League players are fitter than even their top class Union counterparts.

Spot on Woodman. League is far superior to Union.
A lot of Union watchers would need to keep drawn out scrums, rucks and mauls though, as it gives them plenty of time to have a nip of brandy from their flasks while not missing any 'entertainment'.

I can understand why many people love league but its just not for me I'm afraid, we have to agree to differ?! England at the moment need a change of attitude and big kick up the arse. Nice to see the French keeping the ball in hand a bit and actually going over the try line! Would be nice if England started doing the same.
Simie.

I agree we need to change the team, but who will come in and make a real difference? I think the changes need to be deeper and maybe remove the Leicester influence from the rest of the coaching team. Leicester have always had a crude approach to the game, based more on brutal beasting sessions than skills.